Savannah Soulmates
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Good morning, everybody. Welcome to Best Dishes. Today's show is all about Savannah soulmates
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Today, my friend Damon Leigh Fowler is joining me, and we're making some of our favorite southern classics
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starting with a sinfully sweet green tomato pie. Look at that beautiful pie, y'all
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Then it's the most tender, smothered pork chops you'll ever eat. Look, I'm even cutting through the bone
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Oh, my. Look! And Damon shows me his celery root mashed potatoes that are out of this world
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Isn't that good? And then finally, a colorful black-eyed pea dip with a tangy dressing
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Oh, my goodness. My friend here is truly a southern food historian
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He's got fabulous books out, and he's the studious one, and I'm kind of..
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She's the cook. I'm the cook and a little bit of a clown. So..
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So Damon is going to fill us in, aren't you? Well, I'm trying
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On the roots of this green tomato pie. But first, finish slicing these five green tomatoes while I start on the dry ingredients
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Now, I've got one and a fourth cup of sugar and a fourth of a cup of raisins
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Well, this one goes way back, Polly. It goes back into the, at least before the Civil War
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We don't know how far. The 1850s, at least. See, I told y'all he was smart
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It was in a wonderful cookbook written called Versteele's Southern Cooking that was published right after the war between the states
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Damon, I hate to interrupt you, honey, but just let me quickly give everybody the measurements
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Two tablespoons of tapioca. It goes way back, and I think what it is, is, you know, you just didn't waste anything
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in those days. So, you know, you can't use them all ripe, so you might as well use some of those green ones
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and get the vines cold down. A half a teaspoon of ground cinnamon
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and a fourth of a teaspoon of nutmeg and one teaspoon of orange zest
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It's going to give this a little bit of zip. One of the things I love about this pie
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is the tartness of the tomatoes. You know, a green tomato is completely different
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You know, a green tomato is simply a tomato that has not ripened
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And you can see this one was on its way to ripening one. It was headed there
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Well, you have got those tomatoes sliced. Yeah. I've got up our sweetness
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Give me something to do here. Yeah. If you would get the pie crust out of there, this is going to be a two-crust pie
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We've made a simple, standard, homemade pie crust. We have taken it
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We've divided our pie crust. And now, Damon, if you would take the top and roll it out
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I can do that. I'll be putting our tomatoes in. And here is your roller
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You can have this. I will take the pie crust. And I'm just going to line this crust, y'all, with those tomatoes
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And remember that after they cook, they're going to shrink. So, Damon, what is it that makes Southern food Southern
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I think it's a combination of things, Polly. It's, first of all, the fact that we can have gardens 10 months out of the year
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Even in cooler parts of the South, you can have some things growing almost year-round
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So that wonderful fresh produce. Then you have the factor of who was cooking in the kitchen
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And the symbiosis of African cooks, that European cooking, and then all that wonderful fresh produce sort of comes together and makes southern cooking happen
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And I think that's really what sets it apart from other parts of the country
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Damon, look at this. Oh, my Lord. Doesn't that look wonderful? Now, you know, if you don't like raisins, you could certainly leave those out
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I love the sweetness that raisins add to a dish. So all we're going to do now, y'all, is just put this top layer
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You don't want to do this. I will do it. I will do it. Yeah, why don't you? So I'm just going to kind of pull that excess off
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And then we're just going to take it. Oops. Get back on there
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I want you to stay. All we're going to do is just stick my finger in there and pinch
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Take over and finish that up. Yes, you can. And while you're doing that, I'm going to take an egg
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and we're going to use the white part to brush the top of our pie
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because it's going to make it beautiful and glossy. Damon! Well... You're the pie crust man, baby
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So we're going to cut into this pie. Those little slits are going to allow the steam to escape from our pie
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Look at that man. He's my historian. This is a serious knife Paula Yeah it kind of serious How many books do you have out now I have six books Get out honey You been a busy boy So this looks great
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It just needs one more little thing, a little bit of sugar, just a little bit of sugar
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You and I are a lot alike. We believe in sugar and butter. Sugar and butter, honey
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I think that's what the South was built on. So this will kind of crystallize on top of this pie
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it'll just give it a nice little finish. All right. Pretty color
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So, Damon, let's bring it down, honey. Put it in the oven
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Now, we're going to bake this pie for 25 minutes at 425
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So we're going to have it in a hot oven so it'll brown quickly. Then, after 25 minutes, we're going to turn the oven down to 350
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and continue to bake it for 20 minutes until those tomatoes are nice and soft
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and juicy and luscious. A southern classic, y'all. Smothered pork chops. I just kind of love pig, you know what I'm saying
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Rich and creamy celery root mashed potatoes. Now we talking, baby. And we're finishing up with a refreshing black-eyed pea dip
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I've got Damon Fowler in the kitchen with me. He's a food historian, a fellow Savanian
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and a dear friend of mine. and he's about to share with us one of his recipes
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his low country smothered pork chops. I just seasoned this side. I'm going to flip them over now and season the second side
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with a little bit of salt, pepper, and cayenne. Ooh, that is cayenne
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A little bit of cayenne. Oh, yeah, this is cayenne. This is not paprika. Okay, I thought it might be paprika
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This is a wake-up call. And those are beautiful chops. They are probably an inch thick, y'all, center-cut chops
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A little bit of salt. Is there anything I can do? Could you put a little flour in here for me, please
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Do you want it here? Yeah, just right there on that plate. You can wash your hands if you would like
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Okay, I'm going to wash my hands. Damon, while I'm doing this, I don't want you to..
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I wash my hands about 30 times when I'm in the kitchen. Well, I don't want you to put your finger in the wrong place
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and that cayenne really lights you up. Oh, yeah. And I'm going to put a couple of tablespoons of butter
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You know, we've got to have some butter in this. Yes, we do. And that's a little more than two tablespoons
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but who's counting, right? Certainly not I. You know, you feel free to put some more if you need it here
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We just get those lightly coated with the flour. We don't need them to be real heavy
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Okay, so we'll just shake it off. Yeah, we'll just shake off the excess. There you go
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Okay, well, I've got you on pretty much high. Yeah, well, that works for me
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I'm going to let them brown on both sides. And while they're doing that, we'll come over and we're going to play with some peppers here
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Okey-doke. We've got some bell pepper. We've got chicken chnop over here
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And these are the characteristic flavors. You know, they always talk about that Holy Trinity in the Creole kitchen
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Absolutely, yes. Well, it was here first. They don't like to hear that
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So what I like to do is take the top off the pepper like that and then take the bottom off
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And then you can just sort of push all those seeds out of the way. Then you can come in with the knife and cut through at that point and just lay the food flat
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And then we're going to just cut it into pieces. And I always pop out that stem and use every piece
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I always use every bit of it, too. And I'll just give you one and let you go play with it over there
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All right, there's a bell pepper. Oh, that one's really pretty. Yes
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All four of them are pretty to me. I just kind of love pig, you know what I'm saying
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All right, now I see you've got some garlic over there. Would you like, Mamita
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Yeah, about three cloves of garlic. So if you could peel those and mince those for me. Okay
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And I'm going to start on the onion because I'm just going to cut this onion into strips
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All right. Now let me get you a plate, Damon. I think they're ready to come out, Paula
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Okay. So now I'm going to put those peppers in and the onions
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If you want to wait to put the garlic in, I always wait because garlic cooks at a different rate from peppers and onions
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I want to get a little color on the onion, and I want the peppers to get a nice bright green
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Ready for the caramel cat? Oh, I think so, yeah. I'm going to push this to the side, and then we're going to put these chops right back in here
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And we're getting it off to the side. Then I'm going to take those peppers and onions in
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and you're going to pour that little pork juice in that? Oh, yeah. Well, we need to put that pork juice
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Okay. I'm going to clean my hands up. If you'll put the peppers and onions back on top of the chops for me
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Okay. Because what we want to do is we're smothering them with that
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Now, I'm going to add enough broth to sort of half cover these things, about two cups
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Uh-huh. We don't want it to completely cover them. It's really almost a braise that we're going to do here
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One more thing I've got to add to this before we cover it up is some Worcestershire sauce
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So let me just grab it behind you here and we just dash a little of that in You know this is a real southern thing using lots of Worcestershire sauce We got a bubble going so let go ahead and cover it Take some tinfoil and I just gonna work it
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together like this because that's a pretty big pot. So look at there we have
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a lid. All right we're gonna let this simmer for about 45 minutes. Is that correct
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Yes, until they're tender. They might be tender enough in 10 minutes for me. I am so hungry
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Well, let's move on down here, Damon, and get started on our celery root mashed potatoes
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This is a celery root. You can get them in a regular grocery store. And what we're going to do is just take the root off
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Yes. Because you see, when I cut in here, there's still some root up underneath. Right
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Because the bottom of it really has a lot of clumping in it. Right. It reminds me of a trimmed pineapple
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A little bit, yeah. What I like to do is switch at this point to a vegetable peeler because you take off a little bit less of it
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So I know this is one of the ugliest and most unpromising looking vegetables
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but they add a creamy richness to the mashed potatoes that you just kind of fall over
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Honey, I'm smart enough to know that beauty is only skin deep
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We're making a delicious black-eyed pea dip. Look at the colors of that
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It looks so good. And don't forget those celery root mashed potatoes and our delicious green tomato pie, y'all
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Oh my goodness. In case y'all have just tuned in, I'm in here with my Savannah soulmate, Damon Fowler
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We've got our smothered pork chops going. Look at those smothered pork chops
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They're looking great. And while you're chopping up your six russet potatoes and one celery root for mashed potatoes
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I'm going to make us a black-eyed pea dip. And this is very simple
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I'm going to take two cans of black-eyed peas. And this is one of those great dishes where, yes, it's legal to use a canned pea
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All right, that's one can. And like I said, I just want to drain it. And then I'm going to pour it all into my bowl and my second can
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There we go. Just give that a swish. And then I'm gonna use one 15-ounce can of whole kernel corn
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and we're also gonna drain that. And then I'm gonna use one 10-ounce can of a spicy tomato
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And these come in different heat forms. You can go to real hot to a mild
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and they're delicious for hot dips, Mexican dishes. We rely on those a lot for that
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The last thing that's going to go in is a jar of pimentas, and I'm using a four-ounce jar
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I'm just going to drain those and throw those in. They're going to be pretty red color for us
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So I'm going to put this in the sink, and then I'm going to come down, and I'm going to make the dressing for our black-eyed pea salad
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And look at the colors of that, the pretty black eyes on the peas and whole kernels of corn
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Looks so good. All right, Damon, you're about through. If you could put the celery root and the potatoes on the stove back there
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Oh, sure. We're going to let them cook for about 20 minutes
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I need a couple of tablespoons of chopped jalapeno peppers, and we're going to use a fresh
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I need some red bell pepper and some green and the rest of that onion chopped up
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I'm going to start making our dressing for our black-eyed pea salad
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I'm going to start with a half a cup of red wine vinegar
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I'm going to add about a tablespoon of Dijon mustard, tablespoon of balsamic vinegar
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half a teaspoon of dried oregano, and then I'm going to add a fourth of a teaspoon of sugar
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Now I'm going to add a half a cup of olive oil
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So how are you coming on those vegetables? I've got the jalapeno chopped up here
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Now I'm going to add a half a cup of vegetable oil
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So we're using a full cup of oils for our dressing. Well, you're a little busy, so I'm going to walk behind you to the bowl
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Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Let me pass it to you. Now we're using two different kind of oils because you're going to get a different flavor with the olive oil
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Now, I'm going to... Hopefully, this jar is seal-proof. But you know what
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Just to make sure I don't sling oil all over me, I think I'm going to take a rag
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That sounds like a good idea. That sounds like a good plan, doesn't it, Damon
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Just to make sure. And I'm just going to shake, shake, shake, shake it
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I'm shaking my booty down here. Oh isn't that gorgeous? Isn't that pretty? So we're just gonna pour this over our
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black peas and y as this sits in the refrigerator it just get better and better You ready for some onion now I so ready for it Okay You tell me when You can put too many onions for me
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All right. So this is looking good, Damon. You're going to get the bell pepper in there
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I'm getting the pepper cut up. And I'm going to put a little salt and pepper. You know, I'm mostly a home-cooked Paula, so I'm a little slow
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You probably have to fire me at the Lady and Sons. No, honey. Listen, I'm the same way
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You know, I don't want to necessarily be the fastest. I just want to be the most precise, and I want to have ten digits when I walk away
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That's my goal. You know, one of the things I love about things like this, Paula
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is that it really is an example of all the fresh produce we have in the South
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and how we can have salads a lot longer in the season than you can in other parts of the country
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I'm right with you. This looks wonderful. Let's taste. Oh, I've got to taste this
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This looks so wonderful. Mmm. Isn't that yummy? Perfect for a football game food, isn't it
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Mm-hmm. We're mixing up our celery root mashed potatoes. I can see why you would go to that extra little trouble
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That's out of this world. And we're finally going to get to dig into our green tomato pie
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Great time of day. What are you doing, honey? I am ricing these potatoes that we cooked for the mashed potatoes
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It looks just like rice. Maybe that's why they call it a ricer. I think that might be it, but, you know, this helps to keep the potatoes smooth
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I'm going to get that off of there. That looks just like rice. Doesn't it? What I need for you to do, honey, instead of getting your hand in the pot
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is drain those celery roots for me while I finish this up. Oh, okay
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And we've got our celery roots right back here. You know what that looks like now
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It still looks like pineapple to me. You know, I said that earlier, and I stand by my story
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Well, it really kind of does. So what we're going to do is put it into the blender
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We're going to add a half a cup of cream to that. Now we talking, baby
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And a couple of tablespoons of butter. Pass me the butter, and I'll add the butter. Okay
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You add the cream. Okay. Now, how much butter did you say
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Two tablespoons. things. Okay, right. I feel you. So, now don't get too much in there, Paula, because
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I've got to put some in the mashed potatoes. I've got more. Oh, well
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I should know that by now. So now we're going to add
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the cream, and the cream's going to help us liquefy it. Uh-huh. So we're just going to switch
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this on. I hope it's not so hot that the top explodes
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I know. I've never had that happen. I have, too. Oh, I hear it laboring
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Yeah, it's getting so it's nice and thick and it smells so good
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Does it? It does. So now I'm going to take the rest of this butter
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We're going to mash that butter into the potatoes. And while you're doing that, I'm going to take the pie out of the oven because I think..
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Look at that beautiful pie, y'all. green tomato pie, y'all. I'm swallowing hard now, Damon
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So I'm adding another half a cup of cream to these. Okay. And I'll mix that in
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Now, if you can hand me the celery root, you can add that. I'll stir it in
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Just kind of pour it? Just pour it right on in there. And see how rich it is
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Yeah, I see. Yeah. I will use the cooking liquid from the celery root
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Isn't that good? Oh my goodness. So I want to add a little more salt to this
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Then we'll add a little bit of pepper. You know, I can see why you would go to that extra little trouble
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That's out of this world. Out of this world. I'm going to uncover those fabulous pork chops
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And you can show me how you would plate this dish. Oh my goodness
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Great time of day. Damon, this looks fabulous. You know, these, look, look
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Oh, they're fork tender. They're fork tender. Look, I'm even cutting through the bone
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Oh, my. Look. Celery root homemade mashed potatoes. Oh, Lordy
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Those potatoes were good by themselves. Lord have mercy. I gotta taste this pie
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They're just really terrific Isn't it out of the world? This is a great way to celebrate history
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In fact, this is what I've always yearned to do with my history books
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Eat them Eat them
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